'His interviewer on Monday, Fox News’s Laura Ingraham, noted that Democrats have highlighted that quote as evidence that Mr. Trump would end elections, and urged Mr. Trump to rebut what she called a “ridiculous” criticism.
But Mr. Trump declined to do so, repeating a pattern he frequently employs in which he makes a provocative statement that can be interpreted in varying ways, and makes no attempt to quiet the uproar. This comment was especially striking, given his attempts to overturn the 2020 election and his shattering of other democratic norms.
The exchange began when Ms. Ingraham told the former president: “They’re saying that you said to a crowd of Christians that they won’t have to vote in the future.”
Mr. Trump started off his response, saying: “Let me say what I mean by that. I had a tremendous crowd, speaking to Christians all in all — I mean, this was a crowd that liked me a lot.” He added that Catholics are “treated very badly by this administration” and that “they’re like persecuted,” then digressed, saying that Jewish people who voted for Democrats “should have your head examined,” a sentiment he has expressed many times before, drawing criticism of antisemitism. He then reiterated his statement from Friday.
“I said, vote for me, you’re not going to have to do it ever again. It’s true,” he said. “Because we have to get the vote out. Christians are not known as a big voting group. They don’t vote. And I’m explaining that to them. You never vote. This time, vote. I’ll straighten out the country, you won’t have to vote anymore. I won’t need your vote.”
Ms. Ingraham offered him an off-ramp: “You mean you don’t have to vote for you, because you’ll have four years in office.”
Mr. Trump began talking about gun owners not voting, but Ms. Ingraham interrupted him.
“It’s being interpreted, as you are not surprised to hear, by the left as, well, they’re never going to have another election,” she said. “So can you even just respond —”
Mr. Trump cut her off, claiming again that Christians “vote in very small percentages,” and digressing into how he would change voting practices.
He then repeated his statement from Friday once more, saying his message had been: “Don’t worry about the future. You have to vote on Nov. 5. After that, you don’t have to worry about voting anymore. I don’t care, because we’re going to fix it. The country will be fixed and we won’t even need your vote anymore, because frankly we will have such love, if you don’t want to vote anymore, that’s OK.” '
Future is already radical: only question up to us is will it be radically reactionary and horrific (fascism) or will be radically liberating and beautiful (revolutionary socialism)?
I guess I'm not woke cause I didn't think beyond the factthat'ds Oreo is a cool name for a dog. The black in white didn't register but my love for oreos when young hive me hood vibes.
Well, in the Black community it has been used to call some folks Black on the outside and white on the inside. My old boss at the Chicago Urban League used to get pejoratively called "an oreo."
Loaded question ha ha ha. Time and place; unchartered waters. The question is, stick around while many starve or give one's life to defend the Earth and our children? That simple.
“I love you. You got to get out and vote. In four years, you don’t have to vote again. We’ll have it fixed so good, you’re not going to have to vote.” https://www.nytimes.com/2024/07/30/us/politics/trump-christians-vote-ingraham.html
'His interviewer on Monday, Fox News’s Laura Ingraham, noted that Democrats have highlighted that quote as evidence that Mr. Trump would end elections, and urged Mr. Trump to rebut what she called a “ridiculous” criticism.
But Mr. Trump declined to do so, repeating a pattern he frequently employs in which he makes a provocative statement that can be interpreted in varying ways, and makes no attempt to quiet the uproar. This comment was especially striking, given his attempts to overturn the 2020 election and his shattering of other democratic norms.
The exchange began when Ms. Ingraham told the former president: “They’re saying that you said to a crowd of Christians that they won’t have to vote in the future.”
Mr. Trump started off his response, saying: “Let me say what I mean by that. I had a tremendous crowd, speaking to Christians all in all — I mean, this was a crowd that liked me a lot.” He added that Catholics are “treated very badly by this administration” and that “they’re like persecuted,” then digressed, saying that Jewish people who voted for Democrats “should have your head examined,” a sentiment he has expressed many times before, drawing criticism of antisemitism. He then reiterated his statement from Friday.
“I said, vote for me, you’re not going to have to do it ever again. It’s true,” he said. “Because we have to get the vote out. Christians are not known as a big voting group. They don’t vote. And I’m explaining that to them. You never vote. This time, vote. I’ll straighten out the country, you won’t have to vote anymore. I won’t need your vote.”
Ms. Ingraham offered him an off-ramp: “You mean you don’t have to vote for you, because you’ll have four years in office.”
Mr. Trump began talking about gun owners not voting, but Ms. Ingraham interrupted him.
“It’s being interpreted, as you are not surprised to hear, by the left as, well, they’re never going to have another election,” she said. “So can you even just respond —”
Mr. Trump cut her off, claiming again that Christians “vote in very small percentages,” and digressing into how he would change voting practices.
He then repeated his statement from Friday once more, saying his message had been: “Don’t worry about the future. You have to vote on Nov. 5. After that, you don’t have to worry about voting anymore. I don’t care, because we’re going to fix it. The country will be fixed and we won’t even need your vote anymore, because frankly we will have such love, if you don’t want to vote anymore, that’s OK.” '
https://www.c-span.org/video/?537386-1/president-trump-speaks-turning-point-believers-summit
The Future is very scary and actually may produce a second dark age....it's already getting pretty dark!
Future is already radical: only question up to us is will it be radically reactionary and horrific (fascism) or will be radically liberating and beautiful (revolutionary socialism)?
I guess I'm not woke cause I didn't think beyond the factthat'ds Oreo is a cool name for a dog. The black in white didn't register but my love for oreos when young hive me hood vibes.
PS
Paul...the world's a fucking mess. WTF to do.
Help!
oh I'm fine with it for a dog. I'm just saying it does in fact have that racialized meanng for some in the Black and anti-racist communities.
Is calling someone “Oreo” an insult?
Well, in the Black community it has been used to call some folks Black on the outside and white on the inside. My old boss at the Chicago Urban League used to get pejoratively called "an oreo."
Loaded question ha ha ha. Time and place; unchartered waters. The question is, stick around while many starve or give one's life to defend the Earth and our children? That simple.
Well, I'll be hoinest and say that to get serious about revolution can defintiely lead to some shit that can shorten your life.
How else can someone become a victorious revolutionary?