I've sort of been doppelgangered in the minds of a certain kind of usually older white male "populist"- class reductionist-Trumpenleft person. They thought I wanted to join them in sucking up to Amerikaner conspiratorial fascism cuz I'm white, older, male, and cis[sy]-het and wrote scathing radical critiques of Obama and Hillary and bourgeois identity politics. Nope. They missed the Marxism. Communists don't lick the rancid ass of racist and sexist white nationalist neofascism like a GG or a Dore or a Lauria or some other folks I won't name.
Are you referring to Joe Lauria editor of Consortium News? I don't understand the comparison if I am correct about the person. I am pleading ignorance with you, I am not trying to be cute.
Apparently I spent my time watching the part you couldn't stomach viewing. I lost my last interest in Jimmy Dore and his show when, during Dr. West's appearance, Jimmy insisted that the candidate make the issue of government interference with the lives of citizens, during the COVID-19 years, the number one topic for discussion during the upcoming campaign. Dr. West agreed that it was an important topic, but said that there were other, more important, issues that he would make the core of his campaign. In response to this, Dore began to literally yell, then scream, at his "guest," using the most insulting and denigrating language this 75 year old man had ever heard used in a live interview. I wrote Dore how I felt and disconnected all on-line links with the asshole. My guess is that he realized he can maintain his 1 million+ viewers, only by taking the Trump-side attitude, rationalizing what Donald did, while "advocating" left sounding positions. It's his ego, nothing intellectual, that is his primary motivator.
Yeah, the pink-brown truth-inverting Trumpenleft pandemofascist conspiratorial schtick pays. He's making $$ off this crap. The "left" bootlick of the Republifascist right is a money maker. The grift works. Ask Greenwald and others.
He F'ng screamed at West? That sounds about right. I know these Irish American hothead urban redneck cop kid guys from the far South Side of Chicago, believe me. Sounds like he's from Mount Greenwood or Morgan Park or Beverly (neighborhoods) His bio says he got cute and funny from his older brothers beating the crap out of him. Authoritarian personality 101. LOL.
Sadly, like several other commenters here, I stuck it out to the end. Dr. West pretty much ended it after he failed to display sufficient penitence to Dore for all the black owned businesses that failed during the so-called lock-downs. Of course what infuriates Dore is that mitigation measures like this occurred at all, not that the government failed to include adequate rent and mortgage freezes, monthly stipends, PPE, ect. I refuse to rewatch this to get his exact quote correct, but at this point Dore barked something to the effect of, "Would you be more upset if these were trans owned businesses that failed!" That's when Dr. West way too graciously ended the interview.
Btw for better or worse I am the inventor of the term Trumpenleft. ...sometime in 2018. I meant it sort of as a joke. I quickly discovered it was no joke. There's a bunch of these folks, disproportionately older, white, and male.
Oh my God. I couldn't believe he said what he said. He was trying to"make peple believe that he got it right and he was coaching him. " JFC. What a piece of shit. No wonder you have been going off on this guy. Who does this guy think he is? Wow. I seriously couldn't listen anymore after that. That was jaw dropping.
What we really need is a modern incarnation of MLK and Eugene Debbs. Closest we got (kinda) in our current lifetime is Ralph Nader. I like Cornell and will vote for him but he needs to get a little stronger. JD can be a complete jerkhole but his sense is not entirely wrong on this.
I'd opt for a modern day Fred Hampton who had been allowed to live a full life instead of being murdered on the West Side by a bunch of blue fascists with Dore's dad's outfit: the CPD.
Chris Hedges Paul? is that the guy you won't name? Chris speaks to all three of the "rancid ass of racist and sexist white nationalist neofascism" Greenwald, Lauria and Dore.
I saw Steve Earle, the singer, at a show just recently and he made a comment about how Americans can't talk to each other and if they do it's a bunch of hate spew, but hey I digress... I agree on the Dore assessment. He thinks just because he platforms some people smart people then that makes him 'smart'. Dore would have been better served by reading some of Dr Wests books and discussing them than plopping on the 'coach hat' and barfing on Dr West. Dore doesn't get how stupid he looked like doing that.
So I'm going to assume you don't vote, Paul, or if you do, you vote you Socialist or Communist ticket. I'll also assume that even though you say nice things about C. West, heu won't get your vote. I like what you have to say, Street' but not sure we'll every get there. If you believe in democracy would you consider some type of compromise. And if so, what would it look like.
This has been brewing even before the falling out between the thieves of the poli-tricks at the "Rage against the War machine" rally and farce. Don't they know this hurts the Red-Brown Alliance?
The lightly attended rally was opened by Russian propagandist and former TV star at RT program, journalist, author and Green Party member Chris Hedges as MC, with the speakers including Jill Stein; the Green Party for 2012 and 2016 Presidential candidate, the 2008 Green Party carpetbagging candidate for President, "crypto fascist" Cynthia Mckinney, a member of the Libertarian Party & Trump fan (see last post below) and others on the so-called "left" were there to give a progressive and deceptively superficial appearance to provide cover for the “left-right” coalition and legitimize the present of the extreme right. Their principal message was that unity with the fascistic right is permissible and should be actively pursued but it didn't work out that way. Those who oppose collaboration with the right are viewed as political enemies. Willliamson, Stein, West, Hedges were all founding members at the People's Party at convention. Maybe they all should return!Lot of tankies are part of the Trumpenleft. The reason I can't support West is millionaire, surrounded by the tankies and millionaires like Stein, Hedges. Married 5 times and teaching at elite bou-geee univ's. for 53 years. All talk and con man.
The red-brown alliance is a sick joke. The fascists are all take and no give in that grotesque farce. The Rage Against the War event was a disgrace. I say that as someone who has written and spoken repeatedly against US NATO policy in Ukraine.
I've sort of been doppelgangered in the minds of a certain kind of usually older white male "populist"- class reductionist-Trumpenleft person. They thought I wanted to join them in sucking up to Amerikaner conspiratorial fascism cuz I'm white, older, male, and cis[sy]-het and wrote scathing radical critiques of Obama and Hillary and bourgeois identity politics. Nope. They missed the Marxism. Communists don't lick the rancid ass of racist and sexist white nationalist neofascism like a GG or a Dore or a Lauria or some other folks I won't name.
Are you referring to Joe Lauria editor of Consortium News? I don't understand the comparison if I am correct about the person. I am pleading ignorance with you, I am not trying to be cute.
I wrote a couple of pieces for CN. The feedback from the editor was defense of Trump.
Thanks for help, I am losing previous trusted sources way too much lately.
You can watch JFD "coach" and white mansplain Trumpenleft wisdom to Dr. West by going to the YouTube link in this Scheerpost: https://scheerpost.com/2023/09/07/jimmy-dore-and-cornel-west-get-into-heated-discussion-on-campaign-messaging/
Apparently I spent my time watching the part you couldn't stomach viewing. I lost my last interest in Jimmy Dore and his show when, during Dr. West's appearance, Jimmy insisted that the candidate make the issue of government interference with the lives of citizens, during the COVID-19 years, the number one topic for discussion during the upcoming campaign. Dr. West agreed that it was an important topic, but said that there were other, more important, issues that he would make the core of his campaign. In response to this, Dore began to literally yell, then scream, at his "guest," using the most insulting and denigrating language this 75 year old man had ever heard used in a live interview. I wrote Dore how I felt and disconnected all on-line links with the asshole. My guess is that he realized he can maintain his 1 million+ viewers, only by taking the Trump-side attitude, rationalizing what Donald did, while "advocating" left sounding positions. It's his ego, nothing intellectual, that is his primary motivator.
Yeah, the pink-brown truth-inverting Trumpenleft pandemofascist conspiratorial schtick pays. He's making $$ off this crap. The "left" bootlick of the Republifascist right is a money maker. The grift works. Ask Greenwald and others.
He F'ng screamed at West? That sounds about right. I know these Irish American hothead urban redneck cop kid guys from the far South Side of Chicago, believe me. Sounds like he's from Mount Greenwood or Morgan Park or Beverly (neighborhoods) His bio says he got cute and funny from his older brothers beating the crap out of him. Authoritarian personality 101. LOL.
Sadly, like several other commenters here, I stuck it out to the end. Dr. West pretty much ended it after he failed to display sufficient penitence to Dore for all the black owned businesses that failed during the so-called lock-downs. Of course what infuriates Dore is that mitigation measures like this occurred at all, not that the government failed to include adequate rent and mortgage freezes, monthly stipends, PPE, ect. I refuse to rewatch this to get his exact quote correct, but at this point Dore barked something to the effect of, "Would you be more upset if these were trans owned businesses that failed!" That's when Dr. West way too graciously ended the interview.
Btw for better or worse I am the inventor of the term Trumpenleft. ...sometime in 2018. I meant it sort of as a joke. I quickly discovered it was no joke. There's a bunch of these folks, disproportionately older, white, and male.
Oh my God. I couldn't believe he said what he said. He was trying to"make peple believe that he got it right and he was coaching him. " JFC. What a piece of shit. No wonder you have been going off on this guy. Who does this guy think he is? Wow. I seriously couldn't listen anymore after that. That was jaw dropping.
Keith this is Dore for years. He's Trumpenleftism on South Side CPD steroids.
I remember he did a show trying to make some neo-Nazi Boogaloo Boy/Bois out as a F'ng hero of the proletariat.
What we really need is a modern incarnation of MLK and Eugene Debbs. Closest we got (kinda) in our current lifetime is Ralph Nader. I like Cornell and will vote for him but he needs to get a little stronger. JD can be a complete jerkhole but his sense is not entirely wrong on this.
I'd opt for a modern day Fred Hampton who had been allowed to live a full life instead of being murdered on the West Side by a bunch of blue fascists with Dore's dad's outfit: the CPD.
Chris Hedges Paul? is that the guy you won't name? Chris speaks to all three of the "rancid ass of racist and sexist white nationalist neofascism" Greenwald, Lauria and Dore.
I saw Steve Earle, the singer, at a show just recently and he made a comment about how Americans can't talk to each other and if they do it's a bunch of hate spew, but hey I digress... I agree on the Dore assessment. He thinks just because he platforms some people smart people then that makes him 'smart'. Dore would have been better served by reading some of Dr Wests books and discussing them than plopping on the 'coach hat' and barfing on Dr West. Dore doesn't get how stupid he looked like doing that.
Hedges is also very close to Dr. West.
Jackson Hinkle is a new one who claims to be a Left communist but often has favorable words for Trump.
that kid from the wealthy upper middle class Orange County California peddling Maga communism! Even that guys dad tells him to knock it off lol.
The only props I'll give that kid is he gave Mi6 talking head Piers Morgan a good dressing down on the proxy war in Ukraine.
Why would I want to listen to this nonsense.
Why would I want to listen to this nonsense
Why would I want to listen to this nonsense
Cuz I've got the best nonsense of all.
So I'm going to assume you don't vote, Paul, or if you do, you vote you Socialist or Communist ticket. I'll also assume that even though you say nice things about C. West, heu won't get your vote. I like what you have to say, Street' but not sure we'll every get there. If you believe in democracy would you consider some type of compromise. And if so, what would it look like.
Cheers
I could write an essay in response to all that. No, a book. A younger me would do it.
Google up Avakian "Democracy, We Can Do Better Than That." It's quite good.
This has been brewing even before the falling out between the thieves of the poli-tricks at the "Rage against the War machine" rally and farce. Don't they know this hurts the Red-Brown Alliance?
The lightly attended rally was opened by Russian propagandist and former TV star at RT program, journalist, author and Green Party member Chris Hedges as MC, with the speakers including Jill Stein; the Green Party for 2012 and 2016 Presidential candidate, the 2008 Green Party carpetbagging candidate for President, "crypto fascist" Cynthia Mckinney, a member of the Libertarian Party & Trump fan (see last post below) and others on the so-called "left" were there to give a progressive and deceptively superficial appearance to provide cover for the “left-right” coalition and legitimize the present of the extreme right. Their principal message was that unity with the fascistic right is permissible and should be actively pursued but it didn't work out that way. Those who oppose collaboration with the right are viewed as political enemies. Willliamson, Stein, West, Hedges were all founding members at the People's Party at convention. Maybe they all should return!Lot of tankies are part of the Trumpenleft. The reason I can't support West is millionaire, surrounded by the tankies and millionaires like Stein, Hedges. Married 5 times and teaching at elite bou-geee univ's. for 53 years. All talk and con man.
The red-brown alliance is a sick joke. The fascists are all take and no give in that grotesque farce. The Rage Against the War event was a disgrace. I say that as someone who has written and spoken repeatedly against US NATO policy in Ukraine.